my birthday is coming up and i would like a gun of my own. my husband has several, but i want one too.
can anyone suggest a good weapon for a petite lady? i'm not very strong and my hands are small.
can anyone suggest a good weapon for a petite lady? i'm not very strong and my hands are small.
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Fri, May 13, 2005 - 6:54 PMFor general plinking and fun shooting, you can't go wrong with either a Ruger 10/22 rifle or a Ruger Mark II pistol
They both shoot the .22 Long Rimfire (which is about $10 for 500 rounds), are priced affordably (especially used) and are nigh-on indestructable. You'll probably be able to pass them down to your daughter or son when they're ready to learn how to shoot.
Also, there are tons of gun reviews of all types at my favorite gun blog. Just in case these two don't suit your fancy.
www.kimdutoit.com
Just my two cents, and welcome to the Nation of Riflemen.
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Fri, May 13, 2005 - 11:58 PMI forgot to mention. I'm wanting a gun to protect myself. My husband is afraid he'll be deployed and I don't want to be here alone with the kids without some protection. -
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Sat, May 14, 2005 - 12:09 PMYou might want to look at a S&W,Colt or Ruger in ,357 mag you'll have no problem finding grips to fit your smaller hands with any of these and you can load it down to a 38 aspecial which is mure then enough to defend your self. You will then be able to upgrade to the magnum loads when you are more comfortable with the weapon, also they all come in a variety of barrel lenths something that makes the gun a little more yours, if you want it for tatgert conceled carry etc. good Luck Joe -
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Sun, May 15, 2005 - 7:44 PMI heartily second what Joe said.
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Sat, June 4, 2005 - 7:48 AMThe ..Lady Smith n Wesson is a favorite of many of My Girl Gunners...
Simple to use n operate.. Very Reliable and fits smaller hands well...
Also is reasonably priced and easy to find used too...
Oh and by the way...
Hello to All...
I am new to this tribe...
Your Fireman
Bobby
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Sun, May 15, 2005 - 8:56 PMMy wife is 5'2" and 110 lbs wet, she shoots a Kimber .45 tactical with no problem. -
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Thu, May 19, 2005 - 10:52 PMI got my mom a Springfield Arms Subcompact .40 and she loves it. Nice and light, not too much kick, and good for tiny hands.
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Mon, May 30, 2005 - 6:20 PMA good woman's gun, and almost as simple to operate as a revolver (my first choice for beginning shooters) is the Beretta 92/96 series. They are beefy enough to soak up felt recoil, and when stoked with 9mm or 40 cal they carry 12+ rounds. In double action mode they shoot like a pistol, with a handy decocker. If you get the taurus version you'll get a good gun (but without the outstanding Beretta finish) for half the price. Even Gun tests magazine gave it three thumbs up.
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Mon, May 30, 2005 - 6:30 PMAnna...
I just joined this tribe the other day and noticed your posting.
Under the assumption that you haven't purchased anything yet, to make a recommendation I would first need to know a few things. Such as, are you asking specifically about handguns, or defensive weapons in general (ie, handguns, shotguns)? As far as handguns go, what kind of experience do you have, if any: how much/often do you shoot; where; what calibers, models, etc.? Do you have kids or other adults (other than hubby) living with you? And finally, are you on the Missouri or the Illinois side of the Mississippi River, and if you are on the St. Louis side, do you intend to seek a concealed carry permit?
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 7:54 PMhi, i don't plan to take the gun anywhere with me. i just want one to have at home if my husband is called up. i printed out your suggestions and gave it to him. he's the one buying the gun, so i have to go with what he says is best.
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Wed, June 1, 2005 - 7:28 AMAnna......you really should be more involved with the purchase since you are the one using it.
And don't forget to practice....practice....practice... -
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Wed, June 1, 2005 - 12:03 PMmy husband is the head of my family, like Jesus is the head of the church. i would not question either one of their decisions. -
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Wed, June 1, 2005 - 5:46 PMIf you don't plan on taking an active role in every aspect of this process—including the selection of an appropriate firearm along with an understanding that practice with it is mandatory—then I don't believe you have the required mindset to suscessfully defend yourself with a firearm, and you having one might pose a bigger threat then not having one! I'd strongly suggest that you read “Jean’s Story” by Lyn Bates < www.trt-md.org/articles/Jean.htm > in its entirety. -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 5:59 AMYou need to mind your own damn business, xyz.
She asked for an opinion on a what gun to buy, not for your amateur medical opinion on her psychological profile.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 10:12 AMi don't work, the money isn't mine, i don't get to decide how to spend it. as the time gets closer i will discuss it with my husband, but in the end the decision is his. that's how we run our marriage. 10 years and 4 children so we must be doing something right.
your profile says you are from new york city. i don't expect you to understand. -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 12:31 PMYou don’t expect me to understand because I’m originally from New York City?!? I beg your pardon!
But OK, if you want to sling around some crap...
I feel sorry for you in that your marriage isn’t a partnership. You don’t work (while your husband has given you four kids, I take it raising them isn’t considered work—just a wifely chore!), and the money your husband earns is his alone, so you “don’t get to decide how to spend it!” And while he’ll allow you to discuss a subject when the time draws near, ultimately all decisions are his—the man is all knowing, the man can’t be questioned, you must kowtow to the man and defer to his wisdom! You’re the dream of every rural country bumpkin! But this is the 21st century, and we’re living in the USA, not Iran! But then I don’t expect you to understand; you’re obviously from Dogpatch!
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Sat, June 4, 2005 - 4:52 PM" Don't ya just hate stereotypes?!?"
Just the ones from New York.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 11:33 AMWho the hell do you think you are to criticize my opinion!?! Was I talking to you?!? You’re the one who should mind his own business!!!
I have my FFL and I’ve been in the gun business for many, many years. And given the liabilities and ramifications of my actions, I am legally and morally obligated to ascertain and evaluate what I believe to be the facts before I deliver any firearm to a potential purchaser.
Initially, Anna asked for an opinion on what “weapon” would be good for a “petite lady.” She didn’t bother to qualify that request by stating what her intended use was (which, I might add, didn’t prevent you from making a suggestion totally inappropriate to her ultimate goals!).
After saying the “gun” (handgun? shotgun?) would be for her protection, she also stated that she wouldn’t be involved with its selection in any way (despite the suggestion by Lionel). I am highly suspicious that this is more her husband’s idea than it is her’s. She asked for opinions, but refused to offer any other information upon which to base an opinion, even when requested.
Essentially, she has offered no evidence whatsoever that any aspect of this project concerns her in any way, shape or form. And if that’s the case—if she is nothing more than an uninvolved, idle participant—then I stand by my statement one-hundred percent! That is my opinion, whether you like it or not! Regardless, it is directed at Anna, not you! Don’t stick you nose in where you’re not concerned! -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 12:42 PM
It is the duty of every gentleman to step in and protect a lady from uncouth, rude louts. Your questions and implications are very rude.
When you post on a PUBLIC forum you are talking to EVERYONE who reads that forum. I have every right to call you to task for being obnoxious to someone on this forum the same as I would if you were being obnoxious to a lady on the street.
If you are incapable of giving a simple opinion on such a simple firearms question without delving into someone's personal life, mental outlook and family history then you have no business being in the gun business.
Finally, you are not delivering or selling a gun to Anna. You have no obligations to ascertain anything at all. You're just being nosy.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 1:28 PM"If you are incapable of giving a simple opinion on such a simple firearms question without delving into someone's personal life, mental outlook and family history then you have no business being in the gun business. "
We're talking about a firearm in the home for the specific purpose of protection of self and family.
The "simple" answer to such questions tend to involve the person's personal life, mental outlook, and family history. There are conditions in which "I don't recommend you purchase a firearm at all" is a justifiable opinion.
I don't happen to think that is the case here, but Xyzzy obviously has his doubts...
There are less rude ways to opine, I agree. But when the coprus meets the blades it'll be Anna on the trigger, not her husband.
(Incidentally, is his gun going with him or something? Is there already a defensive firearm in the house?)
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 1:58 PMIf Dr. Xyz has his doubts then he should limit his post to "I don't recommend you purchase a firearm at all. I think you should rely on calling 911 for your safety and protection."
However, the last place I would want to be is in front of an armed woman protecting her children.
Besides, in St. Louis the only LEGAL requirement for purchasing a gun is a clean record and correct change.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 2:07 PM"No, he was pursuing his anti-christian agenda, as his later post proved."
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 2:33 PMOh yeah, you're right, he said it sarcastically. It was written in a sarcastic manner. It was a sarcasm roast dripping with rich sarcasm gravy over a bed of steamed sarcasm.
But he meant every word. It's just like when people call me "Marshmallow Man" and then say "Just Kidding!" -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 2:54 PMLet the following be known to “EVERYONE” on this “PUBLIC” forum, in as clear and precise terms as is possible:
If I had done but a fraction of what you accused me of doing, I, too, would be inclined to spring to the defense of the wronged party. But before today I had posted just two messages.
The first sought clarification in the type of weapon Anna was interested in; what, if any, experience she had; whether (if a handgun and she doesn’t live in Illinois) she intended to secure a carry permit; and whether kids were in the home (which, as it works out, she had previously offered). This is the minimum information I, or any responsible person, needs in order to give a reasoned opinion on an appropriate defensive firearm. And there’s nothing “uncouth,” “rude,” “obnoxious,” “nosy,” or unreasonably “personal” in any of it!
My second post did nothing more than express my concerns that, given Anna’s replies to several previous postings and apparent lack of involvement, she might not be capable of defending herself with a firearm if the situation presented itself. Towards that end I suggested she read an article about a woman that when through a confrontation. I expressed these concerns for her benefit—for Anna’s potential safety and that of her family—not mine! And again, there was nothing rude or obnoxious or personal about it. It was a reasoned observation, an attempt to get Anna to better appreciate that there are important considerations—potential life and death considerations—at stake.
On the other hand, you, Michael, seem to believe that by claiming to be a gentleman, defending the honor of a lady from an unreasonable, uncouth lout, that others here will not bother reading any of the posts above yours, and hopefully will not see you as wrongly-opinionated and ill-informed, and that your arguments are completely laughable and unreasoned! You’re nothing but a blowhard that wants to hear himself!
PS: For Anna’s sake I will offer a reasoned opinion on a defensive handgun, based on the few facts that have been given, and with the emphatic understanding that practice is mandatory: a S&W 340, 340PD or 640 w/ Hogue Soft Rubber grips, and loaded w/ .38Spl+P. A less expensive, comparable choice would be Taurus’ 850-line. Good luck Anna, whatever you decide to do! -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 3:07 PMSo after removing all the bullshit, you basically recommend:
"a S&W 340, 340PD or 640 w/ Hogue Soft Rubber grips, and loaded w/ .38Spl+P. A less expensive, comparable choice would be Taurus’ 850-line. Good luck Anna, whatever you decide to do!"
Why didn't you just say that in the first place??
I guess you really didn't mean it when you said "And given the liabilities and ramifications of my actions, I am legally and morally obligated to ascertain and evaluate what I believe to be the facts before I deliver any firearm to a potential purchaser."
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 3:51 PMInteresting that you classify "with the emphatic understanding that practice is mandatory" as "bullshit".
"Why didn't you just say that in the first place??"
Based on what I've read so far, I'd say because he didn't feel he had enough information.
"Were you being sarcastic then or just being a blowhard?"
Maybe he was explaining to you why he feels so strongly about his opinion. You know, 'cause you were telling him he shouldn't and all.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 4:16 PMDo you need someone to read this to you? “...BASED ON THE FEW FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND WITH THE EMPHATIC UNDERSTANDING THAT PRACTICE IS MANDATORY....”
There are many, many other firearms that are potentially much better choices as a in-home defensive weapon. There are many pistols and other revolvers that are potentially much better. That’s why I didn’t “just say that [the models specified] in the first place!”
The models I did specify were chosen specifically because of their features—or lack thereof—as based on the scant information Anna provided, and with the understanding that she practices at the range. But even if she didn’t practice, the simplicity of a DAO revolver allows just about anyone to get off a shot, assuming they don't freeze. Now, whether she hits the target is another matter altogether. And the enclosed hammer/DAO action of these models should help lessen any potential lawsuit by a perp, his/her kin, or an over zealous DA. (It has been known to happen!)
BTW: You’re the type of pigheaded, obstinate individual that gives gun owners and gun ownership a bad name! You were totally wrong on this... give it a rest! -
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 4:32 PM<BTW: You’re the type of pigheaded, obstinate individual that gives gun owners and gun ownership a bad name! You were totally wrong on this... give it a rest!>
As opposed to a condescending gun shop owners who sneer at newbies and pass down recomendations from their high horse, but only if you read their little moral homilies and adhere to their philosphies and legal advice? Pfft! Bah!.
I will continue to post wherever and whenever I see fit about whatever topics I see fit, and you ain't geek enough to stop me.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 4:22 PMOK, "bullshit" was a poor term to use.... How about... "Unneccesary qualifications" ??
I'm sure he feels very strongly about his opinion. His opinion is that Anna is a doormat an incapable of defending herself or her children. He even said so in his post. That's a VERY RUDE thing to say to a MOTHER'S face.
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Thu, June 2, 2005 - 6:48 PMwow, you guys can be mean. i think its nice that some folks want to defend me.
i didn't know i had to explain all about this purchase. but i will if it makes you all feel better.
my husband is in the national guard, he's afraid he may have to go to Iraq. he and i talked about having a handgun that was just for me, his guns are all too big i can't hold them right.
i asked for suggestions to help him out. i showed him what you all wrote and he said he'd look into it. when he does buy one for me, he will show me how to use it before he leaves.
he loves me and would never leave me with a weapon he thought i could not handle. i trust his judgement, he's never done me wrong. i just thought it would be nice to give him your suggestions because you all know more about this than i do and i could save him some time and narrow down the list.
i'm sorry you don't like how we live our lives. but please don't say mean things about how my husband treats me, because you aren't here and you don't know.
i'm sorry i insulted you from new york, but we do things different here in the heartland. you live the way you like and i will do the same. -
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Sat, June 4, 2005 - 5:06 PMIt's not about anybody "feeling better," it's about being able to make an honest suggestion. The more information we have about specifically what guns you can't handle, and what your shooting experience is, the better a suggestion we can make on a firearm that you're most likely to be able to operate and hit stuff with under stress.
In any case, one thing your husband can't easily do without you is find the most effective gun you're comfortable with. Being comfortable handling and shooting the gun drastically improves the efficiency of practice time (with enough practice, of course, any gun can become comfortable; but it sounds like you might have limited pre-deployment time to work with).
I would recommend going with him when he buys it, if possible. Even if you can't shoot it ahead of time, there's nothing like being able to pick up and point a number of choices before making a final purchase. -
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Fri, June 10, 2005 - 10:49 PMWonk, wonk, wonk. get back to guns already.
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Thu, September 22, 2005 - 4:41 PMThis was the most interesting read on here!!!!