I am interested in purchasing a gun for self-defense and for target shooting. I am military and I am qualified on the M16, 9MM and I have shot the M60. I also hold a civilian licenses to carry gun permit.
I am looking for something very small and very light-weight. Something very easy to use. Do you have any suggestions? I was wondering what others would suggest for a female to carry on herself? What is the average price for a new gun?
This is what I was thinking so far…..In a revolver, I was thinking of probably going with A short (3inch) .357 or .38 special. Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, and Charter Arms. In semi-autos, I was thinking of going with a 9mm (9X19) Smith Wesson or Kel-Tec.
Please provide any useful input…thanks
I am looking for something very small and very light-weight. Something very easy to use. Do you have any suggestions? I was wondering what others would suggest for a female to carry on herself? What is the average price for a new gun?
This is what I was thinking so far…..In a revolver, I was thinking of probably going with A short (3inch) .357 or .38 special. Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, and Charter Arms. In semi-autos, I was thinking of going with a 9mm (9X19) Smith Wesson or Kel-Tec.
Please provide any useful input…thanks
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Re: Gun for self-defense
Fri, May 14, 2004 - 6:34 AMAll of those are good suggestions. I'd re-think a 357 in a snubbie though. They hurt me. 38 special would be a better choice.
My gunsmith also approved of those little Kel Tec's, which is high praise coming from him.
Good luck,
Mike
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Re: Gun for self-defense
Fri, May 14, 2004 - 7:50 AMwell, self defense and target shooting can be two entirely different directions.
Self defense - if you carry it you will be concerned with weight. Also size - "concealability". Generally you would "plan" to be using the gun at distances of 3? to 7? yards - across the room or down the hall. So you might not worry too much about accuracy or the sights. or you might worry that the sights will catch / snag on your clothes and prevent you from drawing the pistol. "Stopping power" is a big issue - and shooting through someone, through the wall and into the next room - bullets go right through sheet rock and 2x4s. Some folks buy special bullets - quite expensive - that don't penetrate that far.
Target shooting is typically a longer distance - 15, 25 or 50 yards, so you'd want a 5" or longer barrel, you'd be very fussy about your sights, grips and the trigger. You might get a 22 because even really good ammo is quite cheap and the recoil and noise are low.
I have a 45acp 1911 - Kimber - for both defense and target shooting, but I don't carry it - it is too big unless you have a shoulder holster, and its heavy. But I can hit a quarter 3 out of 10 shots at 25 yards (which isn't really that good - I'm working on it). my girlfriend has a 45acp 5" barrel revolver.
I'd suggest you rent or borrow some 3, 4, and possibly 5" barrel pistols and try them out. The heavier guns with longer barrels will be more fun to shoot and easier to shoot. And if it ain't fun, you won't practice. And if you don't practice ... -
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Fri, May 14, 2004 - 10:20 AMI have a Glock 26 (9mm, 3.46") for "conversation distance" shooting, beyond that it's pretty useless. Otherwise, an extremely reliable auto - with outrageously expensive mags.
Frankly, I wouldn't carry any other auto if my life depended on it. The .357 is a good round, and has much better ballistic properties w/ the hotter load than the 9mm.
Go for a revolver, try shooting some of the airlite .357s for an light, realiable CCW weapon. Avoid Taurus, and other cheapies. If it's something that you think might save your life some day, don't skimp on quality/materials.
My roommate has a Kel-Tec P11, which is a pretty inexpensive, double-action only pistol. The loooong trigger pull, concealed hammer, and small "print" make it pretty attractive for a CCW.
www.kel-tec.com/prod01.htm
As George said, get a gun you'll want to practice with. Get very familiar with what your effective range is, and make sure you're comfortable enough to do tight double-taps if it's an auto. -
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Fri, May 14, 2004 - 10:25 AMOh yeah, the hotter, "self-defense" rounds out there (Cor-Bon, Goldsabre, etc..) will print considerably different than your standard ball ammo, and some guns don't like the +P rounds at all. Something to consider when you're paying more than $.50 a shot to practice with.
Still, I would suggest spending the money and finding a good JHP round that shoots well out of your gun without ruining it. Check w/ your pistol manu or newgroups to see how your gun handles +P. There are some metallurgical design issues with cyclical stress on the chamber, barrel, etc. that don't account for *continued* firing of +P ammunition. So a few rounds an outing usually won't hurt your gun, but a day at the range w/ +P might destroy it (and your wallet).
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Re: Gun for self-defense
Fri, May 14, 2004 - 5:05 PMThank you all for your useful input. I would rather it be a gun for self-defense, but I would be using it (practice) by target shooting. My uncles are gun collectors and sells guns, but I wanted to get some other useful suggestions. Thanks. -
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Sun, August 1, 2004 - 4:32 PMTRy the Browning High Power( comes in both 9mm or 40Cal.) Great for target shooting and self defense. It is considered a full size hand gun but it is very streamlined , which can make it ok for concealed carry. It is single action and has a good trigger pull straight out of the box. I also suggest that if you were to get one , the first thing you do is replace the plastic standard grips for some Hogue wrap arounds. These will improve you grip.
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Tue, April 5, 2005 - 11:06 PMI think that a short barrelled .357 would suit your needs. You can shoot .38+p loads in it if the .357s are uncomfortable to shoot. I find that they are. You may also want to consider an Officer's size 1911. I'm not a real large man, and have been carrying both of these types of weapons for 2 years with no one the wiser. BTW if you plan on carrying concealed, by all means get a permit.
A quality weapon from a reputable maker is a must. S&W, Tarus, and Colt all make guns that go bang every time. Tarus is probably the most economical, but if you check out the online gun auctions and boards you'll get a good idea of prices.
I would also advise you to address this inquiry to the folks at TheHigh Road (www.thehighroad.org). They are very helpful and well informed about this topic. -
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Sat, November 25, 2006 - 2:12 PMI'm a little late on this but just thought I would throw my 1 cent in...I'm to broke to give you my last penny, I kid I kid! haha
Okay I own a vast collection of guns ranging from standard shotguns, hunting rifles, sniper rifles, and hand guns. A couple of years ago a friend introduced me to Hi-Point Firearms and all he did was rave about it. I checked it out and bought the .45 ACP JHP to see what all the hoo-hah was about. After 2 years owning it I have had absolutely no problems with the gun save that it is picky when it comes to ammunition. They tend to like FMJ however the Fiochi 230 grain JHPs fire like a dream. The recoil is less than most high dollar 9mm's I have shot, that accuracy is dead on and I have never had a jam. The customer service is unbeatable and the prices are so low you would expect the gun to fall apart after the first shot. I paid 179.00 for the .45 and I would have to say it's some of the best money I have ever spent. It only came with one 9 round magazine and at the time Hi-point was offering 2 9 round magazines. I called them up and explained that I had only got one and without question they sent me another one. A couple of months ago I sent it back to the company for routine servicing (nothing wrong with it just having it checked out) and they sent me 2 more 9 round mags for free when they sent it back. They come with a lifetime no questions asked warranty no matter if you are the 2nd, 3rd or 4th owner. If you own a Hi-point firearm it's covered period! After my experience I will most definately be purchasing firearms from Hi-Point in the future. They're ugly and bulky but the functionality makes up for it all. I also have a shoulder holster and an inside pants holster which amazingly conceals the gun just fine, even for it's size. However I don't know if someone of smaller stature would have the same results. They also supply 9mm, 380, .40 S&W and carbines. -
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Fri, December 22, 2006 - 7:05 PMWow Kevin after that I have to rethink some things I've heard nothing but bad things about hi point to the point my bud had a brand new 9 mil in the box never fired some one gave him for rent on one of his places and I turned it down for $100 and deciced againt the carbine for the same reason I thought it would make a great truck gun and would be good on hogs I even liked the looks now after reading your revirw I'm a little pissed at my self. As for ther self defence gun I'd fo with the.357 you can always load down to .38 for play time and it gives you another option if ammo were to become scarce as they are both very common
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